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Royals Experiencing Another May Collapse


It’s been a rough week for the Kansas City Royals.

The Royals lost their third series in a row and dropped their opener against the lowly Houston Astros.

Yordano Ventura left the mound in the middle of an at bat due to elbow problems.

Kyle Zimmer‘s time-table to throw this year was pushed back to sometime in July.  The first round pick pitcher was projected as a potential shot in the arm for the big league club’s hopeful playoff push.

Ten seconds after Mike Moustakas was finally sent to Omaha, Danny Valencia hurt his hand and his return is day-to-day.

An article about another first round pick, Bubba Starling, details how he felt over coached the last two seasons.  He claims his recent, and very modest, progress is due to him going back to the approach he employed in high school.

Billy Butler, Eric Hosmer, Alex Gordon, and Salvador Perez continued to putter offensively.  None of them have hit horribly the last two weeks, but no slugging surge is in sight with a quarter of the season in the books.

There are six teams in front of them for the Wild Card, and they are 5.5 games behind in the Central.  What are the boys in blue to do?

This season’s fate and route may, and should, rest on the arm of Yordano Ventura.  As of today, he isn’t supposed to miss much time.  There is no structural damage to the elbow.  Thank the Lord.  But what if this lingers or continues to deteriorate?  No rational mind can see these Royals playing in this year’s post season without him in the rotation.  This team, with this offense, just won’t compete for the playoffs without and excellent and consistent starting rotation.  An excellent and consistent rotation is not in grasp if Little Pedro is not a part of it.

All of these points can be rationalized.  On its surface, it looks like much of what ails the Royals is out of their control.  Bad luck you say?  Well, If you consistently have lots of bad luck, you are doing something wrong.  How do you change your luck?

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If Ventura is going to simply miss a few starts, the Glass family should stick to the plan through June. This lineup will have one more month to heat up and show what type of potential this club really has this season. If they find themselves in a realistic playoff spot, despite a weak lineup, it’s time to make a trade for a slugger.  Perhaps the Rangers would trade Adrian Beltre and Joakim Soria for Hosmer and Holland. Maybe Boston is ready to deal Will Middlebrooks.  Hosmer and Holland are very replaceable and still carry trade value.  Billy Butler isn’t going to net anything impactful for this year’s team.

If Ventura is going to miss the rest of the year, or July finds the Royals no closer to the leaders than they stand today, it’s time for major changes. The Royals would do their long-term needs well by not just dealing away Greg Holland, but moving James Shields to a contender.  Players like Aoki and Butler would also need to be moved for prospects, and it would also be time to listen to trades involving Eric Hosmer and Alcides Escobar.  Moving Zimmer and his noisy delivery would have been a good move for this scenario, but they would now need to bolster his value in the minor leagues with his latest set back.

The changes could not stop there.  The reset button can not be hit by Dayton Moore or executed on the field by Ned Yost.  Moore’s track record makes it clear he is not the man who should be given this new charge.  He’s yet to deliver a starting pitcher, and, outside of Salvador Perez, each of his high-profile draft picks have been different degrees of failure and disaster.  He’s in charge of an organization that does not value on base percentage and has given up on slugging the ball.  The Royals should have seen enough.  Yost and Moore are kindred spirits, sharing these deficiencies. Yost is also a losing manager, inconsistent, and not equipped to outsmart clubs with better, more expensive players.  That’s what the back of his baseball card says.

Last May, the Royals experienced an epic collapse, going 8-20.  This May, the Royals have won more games, but are clearly falling apart.  Last season, the Royals staged a miraculous second half of baseball and kept things interesting through September.  The Glass family can’t wait for a miracle second half this season, this year’s miracle has to happen this June.

 

 

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  • moretrouble

    The Royals are 4-6 in their last 10 games and you call that a collapse? Wow … I don’t agree at all.

    • Ryan Caltrider

      Maybe collapse is a little strong of a word, but this team is not good. And I see a collapse coming. I don’t see them being this bad offensively all season but I don’t see them being drastically better either. This is a team with no pop and no real leadership. I don’t see how anybody can possibly think this team, as currently constructed, is a contender.

      • cardsfanatik

        Your not alone in your assessment Ryan.

        • Ryan Caltrider

          Yes, I think this assessment is shared universally except for those that work at One Royal Way (and Jim Fetterolf, who I’m not convinced doesn’t work there).

          • cardsfanatik

            I was talking to a Boston writer on one of their columns who sees it, not sure how a Royal’s “fan” can not.

          • Ryan Caltrider

            I’ve also now changed my mind. Collapse is not too strong of a word. They are in full melt down mode. If losing 2 of 3 at home to the White Sox followed by a sweep at home at the hands of the worst team in baseball is not a collapse, I don’t know what is.

          • cardsfanatik

            Its a complete cluster f*ck is what it is. Some just don’t care to admit it. Usually those are Dayton’s family. I would rather have my eyes poked out with a hot branding iron than to watch any more of this useless bullshit.

          • Ryan Caltrider

            I really need to find a new team to follow. If it were only that easy, I would have done it years ago. This team is a train wreck and it will take another complete overhaul (by someone not named Dayton Moore) to fix it. That will take another few years. Otherwise we are just stuck in mediocrity at best.

          • cardsfanatik

            I was hoping we could have got the guy that is now going to make the Chicago Cubs a World Series winner, before the Royal’s even sniff the post season. You watch, it will happen. Theo Epstein is TWICE THE GM as Dayton Moore is.

  • Ed Connealy

    MT..I’ll be the first to celebrate this is an over-reaction when the results merit. I wish this post was just about a 4-6 record over ten games.

    • jimfetterolf

      How ’bout if it was 110-102 over 212 games? Some of us still think this a more talented team than last year’s and do realize baseball is a funny game, just ask Boston and Tampa. Royals do have a problem, but apparently not one the Negative Nancys have been able to identify. And the problem may work itself out, or it may not. Baseball is a game of hundredths of a second and sixteenths of an inch and ultimately a lot of it comes down to a coin flip.

      As for over-reaction, been watching the blogs since 2011 and most have been consistently negative all the time. That is just the pandering to a segment of the market mainly composed of game boys and spread sheet ninjas whose mommies would ground them if they ever got a little dirt on their clothes the few times they were allowed outside to play. Throw in a couple of radio faces who need callers to create content and a beat reporter who hasn’t played baseball since age eleven and we have a noisy part of the KC media that panders to people who haven’t spent enough time swinging at a baseball to understand why guys bigger and stronger than Babe Ruth and Ted Williams are singles hitters with high contact rates.

      • Ed Connealy

        Sweet lecture James. I do think this is a pretty good team and could compete if not for poor leaderhip and management. A slugging bat really should have been added and that was a big mistake. So there you are. This Negative Nancy has identified some specific flaws. ( just like the post out lined….even proposes some specific moves and possible solutions) Enlighten us ninjas w/ your solution(s), please.

        You take issue with blogs being negative about the Royals since 2011 eh? What the hell are we supposed to write about? Make believe first place finishes? Should we just lie and say how great the high drafts have gone since Moore came to town? You seem soothed by their mediocrity and it’s weird.

        There are not many fans who care or love the Royals more than the guys who write about them for free. A fair share of them played plenty of baseball as well.

        • Geogman

          What’s to complain about? It’s not the Royals fault that it didn’t feel to us like we won the World Series last year.

        • jimfetterolf

          Since you played ball, tell us why the Royals’ hitters are slap singles hitters, even large, powerful men?

          As for suggestions, same ones as always, fire Glass, fire Moore, fire Yost, trade everyone in sight, rebuild, start on another long plan. Really? Lose some games and blow up the team. Kind of hard to take that seriously, but what I’ve been reading since ’11.

          As for “love”, may be where we differ, I don’t have emotional investment in strangers earning a living. I don’t feel like a vicarious hero when the Royals win nor a jilted lover when they lose. They’re entertainment in a field I’ve followed for awhile and an interesting business problem as well as the center of a virtual society in which to watch my fellow Americans’ psychology in action. The blogosphere is as entertaining as the games.

          But look on the bright side, we generated lots of hits on this thread. That’s the reason for frenemies :)

          • Geogman

            I think the majority of the posts here are expressing a well deserved skepticism about the direction of this ball club. Sure it’s early and there is plenty of baseball left but pennants can be lost in April and May just as easily as August and September. I have been reluctant to criticize Moore for the most part. A baseball GM has the toughest job in sports. Drafting and projecting what an 18 year old baseball player is going to do in 4 or 5 years is the most challenging personnel job in sports. But stubbornness in the face substantial evidence to the contrary is not a virtue. The Moustakas situation is indicative of the insular thinking in this organization. The organization seemed incapable of coming to grips with the fact that Moustakas needed to go.
            Moore’s willingness to stay with Yost is another huge problem for this organization. Yost I believe is single handedly responsible for the failures of this offense. He fired Seitzer because he thought he was holding back the power numbers of his hitters. A lifetime .212 hitter thought he knew more about hitting than a lifetime .300 hitter. Seitzer’s approach to hitting was tailor made for Kaufman. By what metric have the Royals improved offensively since Seitzer’s dismissal? who is hitting better and for more power? Since Sietzer you have had two minor league hitting coaches, Brett and Grifol. How long before Grifol takes the fall? In my opinion Yost’s firing of Seitzer jeopardized what Moore has been attempting to build here for the last 8 years and Moore’s willingness to stick with him smacks nothing more than stubborn pride.

          • cardsfanatik

            Well said Geogman.

          • Ed Connealy

            You are an outstanding frenemy. Color me busted on several of your 2nd paragraph points.

  • cardsfanatik

    I hate to say it, but I saw this coming when they added no real “punch” to the line up. Aoki and Infante? Now, I like the Omar signing, but he’s a second baseman, and theoretically, could have led off. We didn’t need Aoki also. Signing a Nelson Cruz would have been nice. And I got yelled at MORE than once for saying sign him. Realistically, his D is suspect, but if he was killing you defensively, you could DH him, well, because frankly Butler’s just not getting it done. The fact of the matter is, Moore was brought in to strengthen this team through draft and development. AND HE HAS FAILED. Not just on one or two, but most ALL of them. Salvy wasn’t really a “draft” per say. Hosmer isn’t establishing himself as the “middle of the order” bat either. Moustakas…..well, we all know how that situation has been handled. Cain and Escobar are from Milwaukee’s farm, and you can’t credit Moore for what brought them here either. What Moore did do, was trade away probably the best OF prospect we have seen in KC since Beltran, for 2 years of Shields. So, 6 years Myers, for 2 years of .500 baseball? Moore is an idiot, and if he were going to go “all in” by getting Shields, why in the hell didn’t he add WHAT THEY NEEDED? This team won’t be in October, and in 20 years, when those little articles pop up about “So many dumbest trades in MLB history” the Myers for Shields will be there.
    Bottom line is this…………….Moore has done NOTHING to move this franchise forward. Its 1 step forward, 25 back. And a small market team like the Royal’s can’t afford dumbass pick after dumbass pick, by a dumbass GM.

    • Terry LeRoy Payne

      You are being kind to Moore. The truth is, of course much worse.

      • cardsfanatik

        I try to rein it in a bit also, I usually get tongue lashed by one or two people. There is always one guys here thats like “This team is sooo much better than they are”. Like that makes any sense. This team is lost. And they don’t have the leaders with any common damn sense to turn them around.

    • jimfetterolf

      Any idea of what Wil “can’t hit a breaking ball” Myers is doing this year? Actually worse than Moose’s second year. Wade Davis has generated more WAR than Myers and Odorizzi put together. Ponder this year’s team without Shields and Davis and with Myers’ .242 and poor defense in RF. I imagine the Rays are regretting the trade.

      • Ryan Caltrider

        Wade Davis is also making $4 mil more than Myers and Odorizzi combined this season. And, to your point, without Shields and Davis this team is not a playoff contender. Of course, with Shields and Davis this team is not a playoff contender. Shields will be gone after this season with nothing to show for it. Davis should be gone after this season because a setup man should not earn what he will be owed next season, no matter how good he is at it. Also, Myers is not having a good year at the plate…yet he’d still be leading this team in HRs and would be second in both RBI and runs scored.

      • Geogman

        Why would they regret it at this point? Who cares about Moustakas second year? He is in his 4th and Myers is still batting 70 points higher than him. As for Shields and Davis, Shields would have been gone from Tampa after this year anyway and Davis is do a bump to 8 or 10 million. That’s a lot of money for a set up guy given the Royals and Rays spending constraints. I think your prediction about Tampa regretting trade may be a little early.

      • cardsfanatik

        See what Geogman and Ryan posted, I need no further ammunition to reply to this response that you clearly didn’t research.

      • The Plaindealer

        Jim, that’s the brightest thing I’ve ever seen you say. Really, I’m not being sarcastic. When you say imagine this team without Wade Davis and James Shields, well, get ready. Because half of that equation (Shields) is going to be jettisoned by All-Star break. Wade? He can keep tossing 2-3 innings per week. Woo Hoo!! Go to WAR with that!! Meanwhile, after Shields is gone, and the results are in after a year-and-a-half of him in Royal Blue, check the lineup and ask yourself if Wade Davis is a good return for Odorizzi, Meyers, et al. Because we sure didn’t get any results out of Shields, unless missing the playoffs is your goal.

        • jimfetterolf

          This year Davis is out-WARing Odorizzi and Myers combined. Next year, who knows, last year the Royals won 86 games and were competitive while, without Shields and Davis, Tampa came up short of the Series, in spite of Myers’ Lough-esque 2.4fW. This year the Rays would probably like to have Shields and Davis as their window closes with Price ready to leave and them looking to be heading into a rebuilding phase.

          • The Plaindealer

            Why? Why would they want them? That makes absolutely no sense. You keep saying all over these posts that the Royals are going to turn it on, yet you don’t believe Myers will turn it on. You can’t have it both ways, Jr. GMDM.

          • jimfetterolf

            Makes sense if the Rays want to win, double aces and the dominant reliever in the game would do the Rays a lot of good. And what I’ve been saying is this team has more talent than last year’s and that a slow start isn’t anything to get hysterical about, teams run in streaks. Myers may fix his problems, he may not. Same problems he had in Omaha. But what they may do is not the point, what is the point is Myers isn’t producing, Odorizzi is meh, and Shields and Davis are doing well.

          • The Plaindealer

            Who gives a used fig what the Rays are doing. Love your optimism, man. Really do. But the Rays have about as much to do with the Royals flunking another month of May as does the Man on the Moon.
            You think this team can turn it around? Bless you. If you’re not right, that is, if this team keeps doing what it’s done, you won’t recognize a number of the faces come mid-July.
            My guess…better not use ink in your scorecard.

  • jimfetterolf

    The sky is falling, the sky is falling!

    • cardsfanatik

      Be sarcastic all you like, but if you have watched this team, and think they have a shot at the post season, I would like to know who’s payroll your on, Ned’s, Dayton’s, or Glass’. Because this team sucks, and don’t start with your “nobody’s forcing you to watch” bullshit. Nobody’s forcing you to read our rants either, but you do. This team needs a new GM, a new manager, and 2 new starting position players, preferably one that can reach the outfield. And a couple dependable bench options wouldn’t hurt either. 14 hits in two games and all but one a single? Woo hoo, look out!!!! FFS, get real. THIS TEAM SUCKS.

    • Ryan Caltrider

      I’m really beginning to think you are a plant from the Royals front office. You sound just like them.

  • Wes Loeffler

    Meanwhile the Toronto Blue Jays, under the instruction of Kevin Seitzer, have nearly four times the home runs as the Royals and find themselves in first place in the AL East. Let let get this straight – we got rid of Seitz because we needed to hit more home runs?

    • cardsfanatik

      I wish I could like this one more than once!!

    • jimfetterolf

      Little tiny band box. AL East is designed for homers.

      • Ryan Caltrider

        More excuses…

        • jimfetterolf

          Perhaps, but Seitz doesn’t have a history of teaching the long ball.

    • Geogman

      Hey Ned said on 810 yesterday that he knows this team is capable of hitting home runs because he has seen them do it in batting practice. LFOL.

  • Terry LeRoy Payne

    It’s sad to watch the Royals play now. Once again only singles. Butler another 0-4. A great pitching perforance waisted.

    They need to fire Moore and friends before the draft so they don’t waste them on sub-par players.

  • The Plaindealer

    Anyone who believes Ed had over reacted with this piece is just plain Pollyanna.
    Yes. May is a collapse. When a team gets pitching like the Royals have and doesn’t capitalize, yes, it’s a failure.
    The Royals are one tender elbow (Ventura) from falling apart and bowing to the lowly, yet rising, Astros.
    I have followed the Royals since 1969. That’s right, since Denny was second fiddle to Buddy B. I’ve seen every kind of Royals team. I’ve never seen anything so uninspiring as this group.
    We traded the best home- grown bat since Brett and Beltran for 1-1/2 years of Shields and a one-inning reliever.
    If you think shields will pitch in powder blue past the All-Star game, then you’re one of the ones chastising Ed for this piece.
    See you in 30 days when the fire sale begins.

    • jimfetterolf

      Any idea what Myers is doing this year? A hint, he’s worse than Moose’s second year. Kind of blows your credibility up, doesn’t it. I won’t bother to repeat what Myers’ problem has been since Omaha, you’ld have to have some understanding of the game to get it.

      • The Plaindealer

        If you think Meyers is going to be a bust over the next six years, a period the Royals could have controlled him, then knock yourself out. But, truly my friend, what is it about this offense – the one that has 20 home runs in 50 games and is scoring less than a pimple-faced teenager at the prom – that excites you so?

      • cardsfanatik

        Im a firm believer jimfetterolf, that you are indeed David Glass son, or satan spawn, or stepchild, or something. Your argument makes NO, NONE, ZERO, NOTTA sense. Myers IS going to be a stud…period. I didn’t like this trade at the time, and hate it now.

        • Geogman

          I am absolutely convinced that the Royals’ front office monitors these boards and enlists people like Fetterolf and Moretrouble as a counter balance to negative posts seen on these boards. I even suspected that Moretrouble is none other than DM himself.

          • cardsfanatik

            Maybe the Astro’s would trade us Springer and Carter for Shields and Butler :/

  • Agent Goon

    Well Ed, you sure love to drink dat Haterade. After slapping Dickey around for five hard innings and pulling out the win in Toronto tonight, I certainly hope the Royals cum swinging hard into June.