July 21, 2012; St. Petersburg, FL, USA; Seattle Mariners left fielder Carlos Peguero (4) hits a single in the seventh inning against the Tampa Bay Rays at Tropicana Field. Seattle Mariners defeated the Tampa Bay Rays 2-1. Mandatory Credit: Kim Klement-USA TODAY Sports

Dayton Moore's Obsession with Fifth Outfielders


Feb 18, 2014; Phoenix, AZ, USA; Kansas City Royals general manager Dayton Moore speaks to the media during MLB media day at Chase Field. Mandatory Credit: Mark J. Rebilas-USA TODAY Sports

There is nothing wrong with a team trying to build depth. Having viable options should a key component in the lineup get injured can make the difference between a successful season and finishing out of contention. Sometimes, as teams such as the Yankees learned last year, it is good to have a backup plan for the backups.

It is, however, another thing to be stockpiling players that may not have a future with the team. When it comes to the fifth outfielder position, that may well be what Dayton Moore has been doing. Justin Maxwell was not just a needed piece last year, but he performed well in a platoon with David Lough last year. Carlos Peguero has tremendous power, but has been unable to put anything together at the major league level. The recently claimed Jimmy Paredes, while actually a utility player, is being considered by the Royals to be another outfielder.

Each of these players have their deficiencies. Maxwell cannot hit right handed pitching, and is essentially the outfield version of Danny Valencia. Peguero can hit for power, but has not displayed an ability to really do anything else. Paredes really hasn’t hit since his stint with Houston in 2011, and aside from being able to play multiple positions, really does not provide much offensively.

It would be understandable if these players were able to be sent to the minors, but that is not the case. All three are out of options, so unless Dayton Moore can somehow get something two of these players, it just seems as though they are taking up room on the 40 man roster. Unless Peguero suddenly turns into a legitimate power hitter, or Paredes can get closer to the player he was when he first came up with Houston, it is doubtful that either will provide any return.

There is certainly no harm in taking a chance on a player that displays an appreciable talent. However, Moore has seemingly just stockpiled fifth outfielders. Perhaps it is to foster a sense of competition, but it just does not make sense to bring in more of the same type of player.

Perhaps Carlos Peguero or Jimmy Paredes will surprise us. But for now, it just seems like Dayton Moore is hoping that one of these players can become something that they just have not been in the past.

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  • Chad Woelk

    Well it is Dayton Moore, lol. I never could figure out why he had such a man crush on Frenchy and Betancourt. If he was going to sign all these extra outfielders he should of just kept David Lough who was actually a pretty good outfielder.

  • Ed Connealy

    I am hoping he’s got a trade in mind that would move Maxwell or Dyson..maybe for some strong pitching prospects. Maybe one of them is a chip in a bigger trade plan. That’s the only way I see this making sense.

  • unclejesse40

    Yet heaven forbid he bring in a couple of project starting pitchers!

  • jimfetterolf

    Peguero and Paredes are just bodies for spring training while Maxwell is an RH power bat who can play all three OF positions, handy because Dyson can’t hit lefties at gunpoint and Gordon has some issues with them also. Also given that Dyson is the late-inning PR, a 5th OF has more use for the Royals than for maybe other teams.

    • moretrouble

      Gordon hit .307 against lefties last year. How much higher does he have to hit lefties for you to stop trashing him? Oh wait…you’re promoting Maxwell. Yeah, right — Maxwell hit lefties at a .174 clip during his time with KC last year. Go figure.

      • jimfetterolf

        Career .252 hitter against lefties. And Cain is the only other righty.

        • moretrouble

          Couldn’t wait to see how you defended your comment. There is no defense for it. Fans…gotta love ‘em.

          • cardsfanatik

            Moretrouble, I think I have a mancrush on your sarcastic ass :) I also think Gordon needs no bashing. And a career .252 hitter for a lefty on lefty is not a “bad” mark. It generally seems that righty vs righty affects hitters a lot less than lefty vs lefty. Maybe because they face 99% righthanded pitching growing up, who knows, but if Gordon hits lefty’s at a .252 clip, while hitting righties for around .300, and adding 20-25 HR’s with 80-100 RBI’s (he will be hitting in a spot that should give him that) I will take that all year long.

          • moretrouble

            What has Gordon done for you lately? He hit .307 last year against lefties. Maxwell hit .174 against lefties during his time with KC last season. Any comment that suggests Maxwell ought to pinch hit for Gordon or replace him against tough lefties is just plain dumb, no offense intended.

            Also, the idea that Maxwell can play all three OF positions is equally dumb. They tried Maxwell in CF for two games when he first arrived, saw what they needed to see and never played him there again. Honestly, Kuntz has had to take him to the woodshed a bit to improve his RF play.

            Hey, I like Maxwell. He’s a great athlete, a very nice guy, and would be a nice bench player for KC. But, let’s bring some common sense to the discussion.

  • jimfetterolf

    I might add that Lorenzo Cain played 115 games last year, 61 in ’12. As neither Dyson nor Maxwell have options left, keeping five OFs sounds like good sense as there is no quality depth at the position ’til Jorge Bonifacio. If Maxwell is traded and Cain gets hurt?

    • Dave Hill

      It definitely makes sense to have options there, but it would make sense to have players that could be sent to the minors as a fallback plan. Since neither Peguero nor Paredes have minor league options, it just does not make sense to go out and bring those players in.

      • jimfetterolf

        Just taking a look. Both have some upside and both may just have been the best available. Guys that get released tend to be older and have some serious holes. Jorge Bonifacio isn’t going to get picked up off waivers.