Winter Meetings Wrapup: Billy Butler Trade? Reds Interested in Infante

 

Sep 13, 2013; Detroit, MI, USA; Kansas City Royals designated hitter Billy Butler (16) breaks his bat in the second inning against the Detroit Tigers at Comerica Park. Mandatory Credit: Rick Osentoski-USA TODAY Sports

Well, after four days, the Winter Meetings have come and gone. Despite statements by Dayton Moore stating that the Royals would be active during this time frame, nothing really happened. However, there were some interesting rumors that came out of today.

  • The rumors that Billy Butler may be traded could actually be accurate. It has been reported that the Royals and Blue Jays have discussed the possibility of moving Butler and unnamed prospects to Toronto; however, there is no word as to what the Blue Jays would send to Kansas City. Jose Bautista would be nice if Toronto would be willing to accommodate. After all, if you are going to dream, may as well dream big.
  • In a follow up to the possibility of a Billy Butler trade, it is thought that, should they part ways with Butler, that the Royals may target Nelson Cruz. While this would get Cruz out of the field, this would still mean acquiring Nelson Cruz. Unless trading Butler really brings back Bautista, there is no reason to move Butler to bring in Cruz. This just has disaster written all over it.
  • The Royals have already been thought of as possible trade partners with the Cincinnati Reds for Brandon Phillips. Now, word has come out that the Reds may be interested in Omar Infante. There is something to be said for cornering the market in a commodity, but do the Reds really need both Infante and Phillips? This may be a ploy to drive the value up on Phillips in a possible trade.
  • The Rule V Draft was earlier today as well. In the draft, the Royals lost Tyler Sample in the minor league portion of the draft. The 24 year old Sample has spent the seasons pitching for the Wilmington Blue Rocks, with less than stellar results. Overall in his minor league career, Sample has a 20-43 record with a 5.18 ERA. While he has struck out eight batters per nine innings in his time in the minors, Sample has also walked almost six batters per nine innings and has a career WHiP of 1.616. Meanwhile, the Royals drafted….no one.

That concludes our coverage of the Winter Meetings. While things were quiet this year, the Royals were quiet last year during the meetings as well, but acquired James Shields three days later. Perhaps Moore has a move coming soon.

Topics: Billy Butler, Kansas City Royals, Nelson Cruz, Omar Infante

Want more from Kings of Kauffman?  
Subscribe to FanSided Daily for your morning fix. Enter your email and stay in the know.
  • cardsfanatik

    Well, one can only hope that Dayton could pull off Joey Bats. The Royal’s had him once. However, I don’t see AA letting that happen. Maybe I suppose if the prospect package was good enough. Toronto has traded away a lot to get what they have. Maybe AA thinks its time to reload. I’m not to optimistic about this though. More like Toronto trying to trade us Rasmus, so then we can have 2 un-coachable players when it comes to hitting, Rasmus and Moustakas. Then AA laughs out loud at Dayton. I watched Rasmus in St. Louis, and wouldn’t want him, or his dad hitting coach. Because apparently his dad is a better hitter and teacher than Mark McGwire. If Dayton is going to trade Billy at this point, its going to have to be with other prospects for an impact bat that can make a difference this year. So trading for Jose Bautista makes a TON of sense, if the cost is not crippling high. So if they have to give Butler with 2 of the upper prospects for Jose, I’m good with that. Bautista is a proven power hitter, and the K would not affect his home runs in the least bit. Not sure what AA would ask for though, and I think he may be a little more savvy than Moore, so tread carefully Dayton.

    • Dave Hill

      I wonder why Bautista has been coming up as someone the Blue Jays may be looking to trade. If he really is on the block, I’d love to see him back in the powder blue. Would look pretty good sitting in the three or four spot in the lineup.

      • cardsfanatik

        I’m not sure he really has come up has he? I was just throwing a name out. Thinking that IF Dayton was trading to Toronto, it didn’t make much sense, unless it was that type of bat. Do you really think AA would part with him? I mean, I’m sure he would for the right price, but that price might be scary. If AA would take BB and one of the C’s, and a prospect, it makes sense. But AA had Collins, and we got him. Maybe one of Crow/Hochevar/Davis+Butler+prospect get something like that done. Not sure though. I think AA is probably trying to pull a fast one though.

        • Dave Hill

          As recently as last month, there were reports thatvthe Phillies offered Domonic Brown and others for Bautista. He may not be officially on the block, but AA seems to be listening.

          • cardsfanatik

            Then I can only hope!! Hadn’t seen that rumor, so I missed that one. If Dayton could put his bat in the middle of the line-up at the cost of Butler, I say good trade.

  • Nick

    Royals trading for any outfielder not named Stanton makes no sense…our outfield is full of pretty good players. I have read both Butler plus prospects for an unnamed BlueJay bat and Butler for prospects. I might consider Butler and Moose for Encarnacion and a low level prospect coming back. In no way shape or form do I want to see Bautista roaming the outfield at the K. If they were to get Encarnacion and also signed Infante, then could also get 1 more front of the rotation type SP (Haren, Santana, Jiminez, etc), I like them to win 95+ games and win the Central. Now speaking to David Glass, SPEND THE DAMN MONEY!

    • cardsfanatik

      You forget, that Bautista could DH with Butler gone, and you could play Gordon, Cain, Aoki in the OF. Dayton is not going to give up on Mushytacos this year, but maybe next if he still sucks after ’14.

      • cardsfanatik

        And I would love to see Joey Bats in the middle of the Royal’s line-up.

    • Nick

      I like a lineup of
      1. Aoki
      2. Infante
      3. Gordon
      4. Encarnacion
      5. Hosmer
      6. DH
      7. Perez
      8. Cain
      9. Escobar

      Rotation
      1. Shields
      2. FA SP
      3. Guthrie
      4. Vargas
      5. Duffy, Ventura, Zimmer, Adam, Lamb

      • cardsfanatik

        I don’t “dis-like” it. But I don’t see the Royals signing a FA pitcher, Hammels maybe, been connected to Santana, Johan, not Ervin, Maybe that might happen, but I think that AA would probably trade Jose before he does Encarnacion. I could be wrong, but don’t see either one really. Maybe Brett Lawrie, but I’m not to high on him either, although he is just 23 or 24. I think there is just a sense of desperation radiating from DM to do something. Whatever happens, keep Beane the hell away from Dayton. AA will be bad enough. I think this is all just rumor though. Can’t see AA wanting to trade away a bat as big as Encarnacion OR Bautista. Can see him trying to sell something like Lind though. Which would be a stupid trade for DM to make. We will see.

  • unclejesse40

    While I am not against trading Billy Butler, I am worried that GMDM sees this as his make or break year and might be willing to literally sell the farm for this year. while it would be fun to make a run this year, I don’t think I want that considering the outcome would be sucking again for a long time because we have no one coming up and all the MLB guys are gone. Its weird, I trust Dayton to find the diamonds in the rough but I don’t trust him to pull off the big boy trades.

    • jimfetterolf

      Unc, I have considered that David Glass, being elderly, may decide to do what Ewing Kauffman did and what Detroit’s Ilitch is doing, go for a legacy play of trading the farm and breaking the bank to buy a championship. That is the only way Dayton Moore gets all irrational and acts like the Blue Jays and their brilliant GM last year or Jerry DiPoto’s Angels did for that matter. Those two big boys really showed the mere mortals how to do it.

      • unclejesse40

        God I hope not. While it is possible to “buy” a championship, I truly think it is harder than we make it out to be. We forget that players are real people and when you pair certain personalities together it can be toxic. I know I am a homer and I love watching certain Royals players, but I don’t want to see us pull a BlueJays from last year. I don’t know how long it would take Glass and KC to recover from that type of season loss and more importantly money loss.

  • moretrouble

    I fail to see how trading Billy Butler for another hitter improves the offense. You’d be looking at adding only the difference in their production. For example, Joey Bats (28 hr, 73 ribbies) vs. Billy (15, 82) – are 12 extra home runs and fewer ribbies worth the extra 6 million they’d pay Bautista next year?

    If they want to improve the offense, my suggestion is sign Infante, put him in the 2 hole, move Gordo to the 5 hole, followed by Salvy, Cain, Moustakas and Esky. That’s a pretty decent offensive line-up and probably as good as they can do without completely tearing up the club at this point.

    If Duffy and Ventura are ready for rotation spots, with the same bullpen, I think KC is ready to mount a challenge to Detroit.

    • Eric Akers

      Except for the talk about needing to have the DH spot open to rotate players around. Adding JB improves by giving us someone with 40 HR power, and the ability to rotate the dh around. I assume it helps Toronto by giving them multiple players one which is a pretty good offensive player.

      I must admit to being angry at how many times Bautista stares down our pitchers, however. Regardless, I would take him. Of course, we have no idea if it is JB that was mentioned in the talks.

      • jimfetterolf

        Not sure Bautista is a 40 homer player in KC. No one else ever has been.

        • Eric Akers

          I don’t think he would hit that many. It has been several years now since he was at that level as well, but he would definitely be our main power threat. He would be perfect in the number 3 spot I think.

          • jimfetterolf

            One thing I noticed on Bautista is durability, he’s only had three years with over 140 games. For his faults, Billy is durable and Bautista’s last two years he’s played 92 and 118 games. $14m/ plus losing Billy and prospects is a bit high for a part-time player.

          • Eric Akers

            He also has played very little time at DH. I imagine that is where he would get most of his time (I would hope anyway). He might be less injury prone that way. I haven’t looked to see the reasons he has gone on the DL however.

  • Marcus Meade

    If it is Bautista, it’s a good trade as long as the Royals top-7 prospects aren’t involved (Zimmer, Ventura, Starling, Dozier, Manaea, Bonifacio, Mondesi). A package of Butler, Almonte, Calixte should suffice. Bautista costs more but represents an upgrade. He provides more power, better base running, and more position flexibility (he can DH, play RF and 1st). His countable numbers have been down the last two years because he’s been hurt so there is some risk, but moving him to DH should help keep him healthy. His HR numbers will come down in Kauffman, but he can still put up 35-40 HR, get on base at a .360 clip, and he won’t ground into 1,000 double plays a season. I like Butler; he’s a good hitter. But really he’s not good enough to be a full-time DH. To be a full-time DH and be worth the money, a hitter has to be David Ortiz or Bautista, and he can’t hurt a team so much on the base paths as Butler does. Butler is a 2WAR player making $8million this year and 12.5 next year. Bautista can be a 4WAR player for $14 million. There is risk, but this is a smart move. It may also be something like Butler for Adam Lind and prospects, which could also be a good move (have Lind platoon with Maxwell at DH).

  • Pingback: The Rationale Behind Trading Billy Butler - Kings of Kauffman - A Kansas City Royals Fan Site - News, Blogs, Opinion and More