D’Andre Toney Sent To Astros to Complete Humberto Quintero Trade


In March, the Royals were looking for catching depth in the aftermath of two catching injuries to Salvador Perez and Manuel Pina.

In a move that wasn’t well-received then and still doesn’t look like a good trade, the Royals brought in Humberto Quintero and Jason Bourgeois from the Astros for left-handed pitcher Kevin Chapman, a 2010 fourth round pick, and a player to be named later. That player was named as outfielder D’Andre Toney this afternoon.

At the time, the PTBNL was noted as a big key to the deal.

Part of the rules of baseball transactions are that a player who was drafted last June can’t be traded right away, but has to be added later as the PTBNL.  That’s just one of the quirks of the system.

The fear was that some big bonus prospect might be involved – someone like Jack Lopez, Kyle Smith or Bryan Brickhouse.

In that sense, Toney – a 14th rounder – isn’t a huge loss for the organization in a vacuum. He rocked the Arizona Rookie League to the tune of a 1.018 OPS with 22 extra base hits in 43 games. He’s got talent and tools, but not everyone thinks he’s much of an impact guy. At 5’10″  and 170 pounds, he might not add much power and he’s only played at the rookie level.

While neither Chapman nor Toney will break he Royals organization, their loss wasn’t in a vacuum – it was for two other players, neither of whom have done all that much. Quintero has had some doubles and has kept the catcher spot warm while Salvador Perez recovers from knee surgery, but that’s really it. Bourgeois is struggling at Triple A and was a career minor leaguer before last year anyway. Many feel that the Royals could have had either or both of Quintero and Bourgeois off the waiver wire at the end of spring training (and might not have been worth the time even then). Instead, they traded two prospects with some level of room to develop for two players who were borderline acquisitions. As Rany Jazayerli said today “a bad trade got worse”.Hopefully, Dayton Moore doesn’t get in the habit of making those sorts of transactions going forward.

 

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  • jim fetterolf

    Last I looked, Quintero had the highest RBI/PA on the Royals, meaningful for a team in a year long offensive slump. I probably would have stayed with Cody Clark and not brought in another catcher at all, but Q has done a good enough job, so it’s not a disaster, contrary to what those who may have wanted to sign Pudge might say.

  • mmeade17

    I think the issue with this trade is value based. A team like the Royals, small-market, must win or be neutral in value on trades. They can’t afford to give away value on trades to meet perceived immediate needs. Trading Chapman and Toney for Quintero and Bourgeois amounts to trading two descent prospects in order to rent a back-up catcher for maybe 3 months. Chapman, a pretty good relief prospect, will probably have value as a reliever at the major league level. Toney may never realize all of his potential, but he sure looked good in AZ so who knows. This is no knock on Quintero. He’s been as advertised with the Royals, maybe even a small tick better than expected. But he’s just a rental in terms of value. Even if they Royals keep him over Pena, which they should not, the Royals traded two respectable prospects for three months of service from a back-up catcher. That’s poor value from a trade and cannot be defined any other way. If Chapman comes up and has half a season of descent relief work, he has surpassed the value the Royals received in this trade. It looks even worse when considering how the Royals could have gotten either Quintero or a Quintero-like player on the waiver wire.

  • jim fetterolf

     @mmeade17 The waiver wire was a common idea at the time, but Tampa also needed a back up at the time, so there was some demand. The Royals’ position was that they needed a catcher now to give two extra weeks familiarity with the pitchers and didn’t feel they could wait. They may have been right or wrong, but having two of the top three catchers go down with knee injuries is an exceptional circumstance.

  • michael.allen.engel

     @jim fetterolf  @mmeade17 Yeah, Tampa had some demand too but Cody Clark could have been a fit for a short time. 
     
    And anyway, they snagged Matt Treanor about a day and a half before the season started last year. Didn’t seem that concerned with extra familiarity then. 
     
    Bottom line, sure, go get Quintero, but there’s no reason why Bourgeois needed to be involved and no reason to trade two guys who had some potential beyond low level minor league roster filler. Dayton got worked over on this deal. It may not matter THIS time, but what if next time he trades someone who turns into something for a 7th inning veteran reliever? Yuck.