http://kingsofkauffman.com/2012/05/11/baseball-in-a-4g-world/ A Kansas City Royals Fan Site - News, Blogs, Opinion and More Thu, 29 Nov 2012 02:29:24 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 http://kingsofkauffman.com/2012/05/11/baseball-in-a-4g-world/#comment-2020557 Byron Borger Mon, 14 May 2012 22:21:01 +0000 http://kingsofkauffman.com/?p=13100#comment-2020557 I loved this piece -- so well written, and so true for most of us, balancing our interest in the games and the rest of our lives.  That his daughter wanted to know the score, before her recital,  (and he wrote "I must be doing something right") was priceless.  Thanks, Ethan. I loved this piece — so well written, and so true for most of us, balancing our interest in the games and the rest of our lives.  That his daughter wanted to know the score, before her recital,  (and he wrote “I must be doing something right”) was priceless.  Thanks, Ethan.

]]> http://kingsofkauffman.com/2012/05/11/baseball-in-a-4g-world/#comment-2020551 jim fetterolf Fri, 11 May 2012 23:23:07 +0000 http://kingsofkauffman.com/?p=13100#comment-2020551 A little further information in order to once again confront the ignorance tossed around by AM radio and various bloggers: In Polk WAZ (wins above zero) as scored by Lee Judge on Judging the Royals, Bruce Chen is at p 0.68, fWAR 0.6. Danny Duffy is p 0.45, f 0.4. Luke Hochevar is p  0.27, f 0.3. Felipe Paulino p 0.17, f 0.2. And all that without the need for a math PhD to come up with a bunch of formulas and weights. And based on a much older system.   I personally consider Polk's defensive numbers quite a bit more reliable than the pie-slice systems, but it could be argued that a player like Eric Hosmer is overvalued in Polk based on his outstanding defensive plays which save Moose and Esky a basket full of errors, his HRs and second most RBIs and Rs on the team, Polk having him at p 1.26, so-called advanced metrics rating him at f -0.4, well below replacement level.   Other than the obligatory snark, good piece, Ethan. I like your work and respect your effort. A little further information in order to once again confront the ignorance tossed around by AM radio and various bloggers: In Polk WAZ (wins above zero) as scored by Lee Judge on Judging the Royals, Bruce Chen is at p 0.68, fWAR 0.6. Danny Duffy is p 0.45, f 0.4. Luke Hochevar is p  0.27, f 0.3. Felipe Paulino p 0.17, f 0.2. And all that without the need for a math PhD to come up with a bunch of formulas and weights. And based on a much older system.
 
I personally consider Polk’s defensive numbers quite a bit more reliable than the pie-slice systems, but it could be argued that a player like Eric Hosmer is overvalued in Polk based on his outstanding defensive plays which save Moose and Esky a basket full of errors, his HRs and second most RBIs and Rs on the team, Polk having him at p 1.26, so-called advanced metrics rating him at f -0.4, well below replacement level.
 
Other than the obligatory snark, good piece, Ethan. I like your work and respect your effort.

]]> http://kingsofkauffman.com/2012/05/11/baseball-in-a-4g-world/#comment-2020550 jim fetterolf Fri, 11 May 2012 14:15:39 +0000 http://kingsofkauffman.com/?p=13100#comment-2020550 Kind of you to link the Judging the Royals article, I expected a link to some other site. Thanks. Kind of you to link the Judging the Royals article, I expected a link to some other site. Thanks.

]]> http://kingsofkauffman.com/2012/05/11/baseball-in-a-4g-world/#comment-2020549 jim fetterolf Fri, 11 May 2012 14:12:23 +0000 http://kingsofkauffman.com/?p=13100#comment-2020549 Polk points are an early, 35 years ago, attempt to quantify elements of a ballplayer's performance beyond the few things included in a box score. Sabermetrics can be seen as built upon Polk and the many other coach generated rating systems. Polk still has some advantages, such as weighting for long at-bats, the thing that got Jon Lester out after five innings, and outstanding defensive plays, something suggested a century ago when errors became a statistic. Polk points can be reduced to a small number somewhat analogous to the newer systems by moving the decimal point two spaces to the left. Polk points are an early, 35 years ago, attempt to quantify elements of a ballplayer’s performance beyond the few things included in a box score. Sabermetrics can be seen as built upon Polk and the many other coach generated rating systems. Polk still has some advantages, such as weighting for long at-bats, the thing that got Jon Lester out after five innings, and outstanding defensive plays, something suggested a century ago when errors became a statistic. Polk points can be reduced to a small number somewhat analogous to the newer systems by moving the decimal point two spaces to the left.

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