Comments on: Dear Dayton Moore: Why Not Roy Oswalt? http://kingsofkauffman.com/2012/02/06/why-not-roy-oswalt/ A Kansas City Royals Fan Site - News, Blogs, Opinion and More Thu, 29 Nov 2012 02:29:24 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: didymus http://kingsofkauffman.com/2012/02/06/why-not-roy-oswalt/#comment-2020134 didymus Sun, 12 Feb 2012 23:07:06 +0000 http://kingsofkauffman.com/?p=12020#comment-2020134 I totally agree with you. I've said many times on the Royals blog that we should sign Oswalt to a 1 year contract in the range of $6-8 million. It is just so logical. If Dayton has already approached Oswalt's agent, and the guy simply doesn't want to play in KC, he should let the fans know that he made the effort. That will allow the fan base to move on, knowing we are going to stay with the starting pitchers already on our rooster. I totally agree with you. I’ve said many times on the Royals blog that we should sign Oswalt to a 1 year contract in the range of $6-8 million. It is just so logical. If Dayton has already approached Oswalt’s agent, and the guy simply doesn’t want to play in KC, he should let the fans know that he made the effort. That will allow the fan base to move on, knowing we are going to stay with the starting pitchers already on our rooster.

]]> By: didymus http://kingsofkauffman.com/2012/02/06/why-not-roy-oswalt/#comment-2020126 didymus Thu, 09 Feb 2012 04:58:01 +0000 http://kingsofkauffman.com/?p=12020#comment-2020126 I've been saying this for the last month on the Royals website. Sign him for a year, let our young pitchers get one more year of experience, then let Oswalt (after proving himself, go to the highest bidder). It's such a win/win for the Royals and Oswalt's marketability in 2013. If he falls on his face in 2012, he retires to Mississippi as a mega millionare. Come on DM...I have always been one of your most vocal supports...do the right (and total logical thing) and sign the guy for 2012. I’ve been saying this for the last month on the Royals website. Sign him for a year, let our young pitchers get one more year of experience, then let Oswalt (after proving himself, go to the highest bidder). It’s such a win/win for the Royals and Oswalt’s marketability in 2013. If he falls on his face in 2012, he retires to Mississippi as a mega millionare. Come on DM…I have always been one of your most vocal supports…do the right (and total logical thing) and sign the guy for 2012.

]]> By: jim fetterolf http://kingsofkauffman.com/2012/02/06/why-not-roy-oswalt/#comment-2020125 jim fetterolf Wed, 08 Feb 2012 05:34:04 +0000 http://kingsofkauffman.com/?p=12020#comment-2020125 @mmeade17 I agree that Paulino isn't a lock, but stuff and maturity make him a possibility, whereas Oswalt's work before his back injury makes his history irrelevant. It is my understanding that he has the same type of problem Mike Sweeney had, a degenerative disc, and those don't get better.As for money, we can't be sure, so I try to put myself in David Glass' shoes, recognizing that GMDM wouldn't have come on board without solid assurances that he would have the money to build a long term contender. That leads me to think that Glass gave him a pile of money, $350 million over five years is a common guess that makes sense under current revenues. If that is so, then money spent on Oswalt to get a couple of WAR, maybe, above Duffy, doesn't make sense now when that won't be enough to predict taking the Central, so I would save that money, give the kids a chance to get experience and prove themselves, then have the money for next year or later when we have the opportunity to get a pitcher who can put us over 90 wins. Glass has been investing in the team and he doesn't need any more money, so I think he's committed to the Process of growing internally without breaking the bank and trading the farm. I could be wrong, but that's the feeling I get after watching the spending on the draft, international signings, and even the new FieldFX equipment. Those actions don't say "Cheap!" to me, rather say that a plan is in place and David Glass is trying to build a legacy like Mr. Kaufman. We'll just have to disagree at the moment. Good posts, I respect your thoughts. @mmeade17 I agree that Paulino isn’t a lock, but stuff and maturity make him a possibility, whereas Oswalt’s work before his back injury makes his history irrelevant. It is my understanding that he has the same type of problem Mike Sweeney had, a degenerative disc, and those don’t get better.As for money, we can’t be sure, so I try to put myself in David Glass’ shoes, recognizing that GMDM wouldn’t have come on board without solid assurances that he would have the money to build a long term contender. That leads me to think that Glass gave him a pile of money, $350 million over five years is a common guess that makes sense under current revenues. If that is so, then money spent on Oswalt to get a couple of WAR, maybe, above Duffy, doesn’t make sense now when that won’t be enough to predict taking the Central, so I would save that money, give the kids a chance to get experience and prove themselves, then have the money for next year or later when we have the opportunity to get a pitcher who can put us over 90 wins. Glass has been investing in the team and he doesn’t need any more money, so I think he’s committed to the Process of growing internally without breaking the bank and trading the farm. I could be wrong, but that’s the feeling I get after watching the spending on the draft, international signings, and even the new FieldFX equipment. Those actions don’t say “Cheap!” to me, rather say that a plan is in place and David Glass is trying to build a legacy like Mr. Kaufman. We’ll just have to disagree at the moment. Good posts, I respect your thoughts.

]]> By: kcroyalsfanatic http://kingsofkauffman.com/2012/02/06/why-not-roy-oswalt/#comment-2020124 kcroyalsfanatic Wed, 08 Feb 2012 00:57:25 +0000 http://kingsofkauffman.com/?p=12020#comment-2020124 Its honestly maddening considering that 40% of his salary would be taken on by another team if the deal does not push the Royals into contention and we flip him to another team in the hunt at the break (unless there is a veto clause) I want to be myopic and believe that its not a matter of Daytons interest, its Oswalt's Its honestly maddening considering that 40% of his salary would be taken on by another team if the deal does not push the Royals into contention and we flip him to another team in the hunt at the break (unless there is a veto clause)

I want to be myopic and believe that its not a matter of Daytons interest, its Oswalt’s

]]> By: mmeade17 http://kingsofkauffman.com/2012/02/06/why-not-roy-oswalt/#comment-2020123 mmeade17 Tue, 07 Feb 2012 22:45:25 +0000 http://kingsofkauffman.com/?p=12020#comment-2020123 But it makes no sense to project Paulino's numbers for 30 starts when he's never been able to put up those numbers consistently. He had a decent (and I mean decent not great) spurt as a 28 year old pitcher who had bounced around MLB bullpens to rotations and the minor leagues. There is a reason for that. If you want to look at projections, look at what Bill James' projections give Oswalt and Paulino at fangraphs (for Oswalt: 3.37 ERA, 3.52 FIP) (for Paulino 4.59 ERA, 4.00 FIP). There should be no question that Oswalt is the better pitcher. The real issue is money. I guess it comes down to whether or not you believe that David Glass will take that $8-10 million and save it to sign Hosmer and Moustaksas AND whether or not that $8-10 million will make the difference in signing them AND whether or not Oswalt could have value as a trade commodity or as a revenue producer via ticket sales, merchandising, potential home playoff games, etc. Personally, I think that $8-10 million is better spent getting value now (as most analysts feel Oswalt could be a steal at $8-10 million) than hoping on MAYBE signing Hosmer and Moustakas in the future (which is no where near a guarantee) with that money. I also believe signing Oswalt actually gives them a better chance to sign Hosmer and Moustakas later, via increased revenue, fan interests, and winning, which helps keep players around. But it makes no sense to project Paulino’s numbers for 30 starts when he’s never been able to put up those numbers consistently. He had a decent (and I mean decent not great) spurt as a 28 year old pitcher who had bounced around MLB bullpens to rotations and the minor leagues. There is a reason for that. If you want to look at projections, look at what Bill James’ projections give Oswalt and Paulino at fangraphs (for Oswalt: 3.37 ERA, 3.52 FIP) (for Paulino 4.59 ERA, 4.00 FIP). There should be no question that Oswalt is the better pitcher. The real issue is money. I guess it comes down to whether or not you believe that David Glass will take that $8-10 million and save it to sign Hosmer and Moustaksas AND whether or not that $8-10 million will make the difference in signing them AND whether or not Oswalt could have value as a trade commodity or as a revenue producer via ticket sales, merchandising, potential home playoff games, etc. Personally, I think that $8-10 million is better spent getting value now (as most analysts feel Oswalt could be a steal at $8-10 million) than hoping on MAYBE signing Hosmer and Moustakas in the future (which is no where near a guarantee) with that money. I also believe signing Oswalt actually gives them a better chance to sign Hosmer and Moustakas later, via increased revenue, fan interests, and winning, which helps keep players around.

]]> By: jim fetterolf http://kingsofkauffman.com/2012/02/06/why-not-roy-oswalt/#comment-2020119 jim fetterolf Tue, 07 Feb 2012 22:09:17 +0000 http://kingsofkauffman.com/?p=12020#comment-2020119 @the5allens Neither Jackson nor Oswalt are aces and Paulino came in as a #2 starter based on his 2.6 fWAR last year, so he should be in the rotation. @the5allens Neither Jackson nor Oswalt are aces and Paulino came in as a #2 starter based on his 2.6 fWAR last year, so he should be in the rotation.

]]> By: jim fetterolf http://kingsofkauffman.com/2012/02/06/why-not-roy-oswalt/#comment-2020118 jim fetterolf Tue, 07 Feb 2012 22:06:02 +0000 http://kingsofkauffman.com/?p=12020#comment-2020118 @mmeade17 Valid points, although I consider the break point for ace to be 5.0 fWAR. As for Paulino, projecting last year's performance to 30 starts gives 3.9 fWAR, making him a #1 starter. I'ld be surprised if Oswalt with a degenerative disc and moving to the AL would come close to that. As for Oswalt's value, two extra wins was what Scott McKinney predicted based on various projection systems, so that doesn't justify the money. As for Zack, I think we can get him back if we want him. Next year we may not think we need to spend that kind of money, but if we do we have an extra $10 million from not using it on Oswalt, who won't get us to the World Series even if he pitches like Verlander. @mmeade17 Valid points, although I consider the break point for ace to be 5.0 fWAR. As for Paulino, projecting last year’s performance to 30 starts gives 3.9 fWAR, making him a #1 starter. I’ld be surprised if Oswalt with a degenerative disc and moving to the AL would come close to that. As for Oswalt’s value, two extra wins was what Scott McKinney predicted based on various projection systems, so that doesn’t justify the money. As for Zack, I think we can get him back if we want him. Next year we may not think we need to spend that kind of money, but if we do we have an extra $10 million from not using it on Oswalt, who won’t get us to the World Series even if he pitches like Verlander.

]]> By: mmeade17 http://kingsofkauffman.com/2012/02/06/why-not-roy-oswalt/#comment-2020117 mmeade17 Tue, 07 Feb 2012 19:51:30 +0000 http://kingsofkauffman.com/?p=12020#comment-2020117 @jim fetterolf That's because he's been on the Phillies the last three years, and they had 4 number one starters. ERA in years since 2006: 3.18, 3.54, 4.12, 2.76, 3.69. Each one of those comes with a FIP of no higher than 3.80. In 2010 he was 2.76 ERA over 211 innings, 8.21 K/9, 2.34 BB/9, and a 4.7 WAR. That's an ace year. Even last year, with back problems, he went 3.69 ERA and 3.44 FIP. Is he a guaranteed ace? No, no one with a risk of injury is. Is he a potential ace? Yes, at least for one year. And i don't know that Duffy would necessarily go to Omaha. The Royals could push Paulino into the bullpen where I think he belongs. I'm fairly confident no matter how much money the Royals have, they aren't getting Greinke back, and signing Oswalt now do much in terms of signing young stars, as signing them doesn't become an issue for a few years. Plus, adding Oswalt could help sign the young stars if he helps them get to the playoffs and generate revenue. They could even trade him at the deadline and push whatever's left on his salary onto someone else. It could actually be cheaper than $10 million if they trade him. @jim fetterolf That’s because he’s been on the Phillies the last three years, and they had 4 number one starters. ERA in years since 2006: 3.18, 3.54, 4.12, 2.76, 3.69. Each one of those comes with a FIP of no higher than 3.80. In 2010 he was 2.76 ERA over 211 innings, 8.21 K/9, 2.34 BB/9, and a 4.7 WAR. That’s an ace year. Even last year, with back problems, he went 3.69 ERA and 3.44 FIP. Is he a guaranteed ace? No, no one with a risk of injury is. Is he a potential ace? Yes, at least for one year. And i don’t know that Duffy would necessarily go to Omaha. The Royals could push Paulino into the bullpen where I think he belongs. I’m fairly confident no matter how much money the Royals have, they aren’t getting Greinke back, and signing Oswalt now do much in terms of signing young stars, as signing them doesn’t become an issue for a few years. Plus, adding Oswalt could help sign the young stars if he helps them get to the playoffs and generate revenue. They could even trade him at the deadline and push whatever’s left on his salary onto someone else. It could actually be cheaper than $10 million if they trade him.

]]> By: the5allens http://kingsofkauffman.com/2012/02/06/why-not-roy-oswalt/#comment-2020116 the5allens Tue, 07 Feb 2012 18:22:01 +0000 http://kingsofkauffman.com/?p=12020#comment-2020116 great article, and I agree. however, I would like to comment on the stated concern (common in articles about this team) of adding a pitcher "while not blocking the young guns". With a rotation like ours, if the young guns can't force their way into the rotation, maybe they are more like Dan Reichert (or Kyle Davies) and less like Justin Verlander. Maybe we shouldn't worry too much about leaving an opportunity for them, when our placeholders aren't exactly overwhelming. Montgomery is apparently the only one percolating close to the majors. Lamb is still on the shelf, and probably won't be right for at least a year after he resumes pitching. Odorizzi is probably at least 1 year out, and maybe 2. Meanwhile, Sanchez will likely be gone shortly, maybe even mid-season to make room for Montgomery. Chen is already pitching on borrowed time, and Hochever is on the bubble of being a bust (particularly given his draft slot). So no, adding a pitcher for one year (or even more) won't block anybody. Don't get me started about having Paulino in our rotation. imho, adding an ace - even on a mid-long term basis - won't truly block anybody and will only help the team in both short and long term. In fact, wouldn't it be nice if Montgomery could just worry about being the 5th starter when he arrives, let him get his legs under him, before the fans and media are desperate for someone - anyone - to lead this rotation? (anyone remember the crushing hype on Alex Gordon?). great article, and I agree.

however, I would like to comment on the stated concern (common in articles about this team) of adding a pitcher “while not blocking the young guns”. With a rotation like ours, if the young guns can’t force their way into the rotation, maybe they are more like Dan Reichert (or Kyle Davies) and less like Justin Verlander. Maybe we shouldn’t worry too much about leaving an opportunity for them, when our placeholders aren’t exactly overwhelming.

Montgomery is apparently the only one percolating close to the majors. Lamb is still on the shelf, and probably won’t be right for at least a year after he resumes pitching. Odorizzi is probably at least 1 year out, and maybe 2.

Meanwhile, Sanchez will likely be gone shortly, maybe even mid-season to make room for Montgomery. Chen is already pitching on borrowed time, and Hochever is on the bubble of being a bust (particularly given his draft slot). So no, adding a pitcher for one year (or even more) won’t block anybody. Don’t get me started about having Paulino in our rotation.

imho, adding an ace – even on a mid-long term basis – won’t truly block anybody and will only help the team in both short and long term. In fact, wouldn’t it be nice if Montgomery could just worry about being the 5th starter when he arrives, let him get his legs under him, before the fans and media are desperate for someone – anyone – to lead this rotation? (anyone remember the crushing hype on Alex Gordon?).

]]> By: the5allens http://kingsofkauffman.com/2012/02/06/why-not-roy-oswalt/#comment-6105 the5allens Tue, 07 Feb 2012 17:22:01 +0000 http://kingsofkauffman.com/?p=12020#comment-6105 great article, and I agree. however, I would like to comment on the stated concern (common in articles about this team) of adding a pitcher "while not blocking the young guns". With a rotation like ours, if the young guns can't force their way into the rotation, maybe they are more like Dan Reichert (or Kyle Davies) and less like Justin Verlander. Maybe we shouldn't worry too much about leaving an opportunity for them, when our placeholders aren't exactly overwhelming. Montgomery is apparently the only one percolating close to the majors. Lamb is still on the shelf, and probably won't be right for at least a year after he resumes pitching. Odorizzi is probably at least 1 year out, and maybe 2. Meanwhile, Sanchez will likely be gone shortly, maybe even mid-season to make room for Montgomery. Chen is already pitching on borrowed time, and Hochever is on the bubble of being a bust (particularly given his draft slot). So no, adding a pitcher for one year (or even more) won't block anybody. Don't get me started about having Paulino in our rotation. imho, adding an ace - even on a mid-long term basis - won't truly block anybody and will only help the team in both short and long term. In fact, wouldn't it be nice if Montgomery could just worry about being the 5th starter when he arrives, let him get his legs under him, before the fans and media are desperate for someone - anyone - to lead this rotation? (anyone remember the crushing hype on Alex Gordon?). great article, and I agree.

however, I would like to comment on the stated concern (common in articles about this team) of adding a pitcher “while not blocking the young guns”. With a rotation like ours, if the young guns can’t force their way into the rotation, maybe they are more like Dan Reichert (or Kyle Davies) and less like Justin Verlander. Maybe we shouldn’t worry too much about leaving an opportunity for them, when our placeholders aren’t exactly overwhelming.

Montgomery is apparently the only one percolating close to the majors. Lamb is still on the shelf, and probably won’t be right for at least a year after he resumes pitching. Odorizzi is probably at least 1 year out, and maybe 2.

Meanwhile, Sanchez will likely be gone shortly, maybe even mid-season to make room for Montgomery. Chen is already pitching on borrowed time, and Hochever is on the bubble of being a bust (particularly given his draft slot). So no, adding a pitcher for one year (or even more) won’t block anybody. Don’t get me started about having Paulino in our rotation.

imho, adding an ace – even on a mid-long term basis – won’t truly block anybody and will only help the team in both short and long term. In fact, wouldn’t it be nice if Montgomery could just worry about being the 5th starter when he arrives, let him get his legs under him, before the fans and media are desperate for someone – anyone – to lead this rotation? (anyone remember the crushing hype on Alex Gordon?).

]]> By: michael.allen.engel http://kingsofkauffman.com/2012/02/06/why-not-roy-oswalt/#comment-2020110 michael.allen.engel Tue, 07 Feb 2012 03:57:04 +0000 http://kingsofkauffman.com/?p=12020#comment-2020110 My best guess is that the Royals inquired (they were meeting with Oswalt's agent early in the free agent signing period) and may have been told that he wasn't interested in coming to Kansas City. If there was a chance to get him and it took $10 million to do it, of course I'd be for it - and if it ends up being something that gets us "only a couple more wins", well what if we're at 85-77 at the end of the year and those couple wins could have had the Royals at 87, 88, 89 wins? That's money well spent. As it is...doubt the Royals had a chance. Roy might realize that with his back issues this is his last chance at a real rotation spot and he wants it to be on a contender. The Royals aren't contenders. Yet. My best guess is that the Royals inquired (they were meeting with Oswalt’s agent early in the free agent signing period) and may have been told that he wasn’t interested in coming to Kansas City. If there was a chance to get him and it took $10 million to do it, of course I’d be for it – and if it ends up being something that gets us “only a couple more wins”, well what if we’re at 85-77 at the end of the year and those couple wins could have had the Royals at 87, 88, 89 wins? That’s money well spent.

As it is…doubt the Royals had a chance. Roy might realize that with his back issues this is his last chance at a real rotation spot and he wants it to be on a contender. The Royals aren’t contenders. Yet.

]]> By: michael.allen.engel http://kingsofkauffman.com/2012/02/06/why-not-roy-oswalt/#comment-6099 michael.allen.engel Tue, 07 Feb 2012 02:57:04 +0000 http://kingsofkauffman.com/?p=12020#comment-6099 My best guess is that the Royals inquired (they were meeting with Oswalt's agent early in the free agent signing period) and may have been told that he wasn't interested in coming to Kansas City. If there was a chance to get him and it took $10 million to do it, of course I'd be for it - and if it ends up being something that gets us "only a couple more wins", well what if we're at 85-77 at the end of the year and those couple wins could have had the Royals at 87, 88, 89 wins? That's money well spent. As it is...doubt the Royals had a chance. Roy might realize that with his back issues this is his last chance at a real rotation spot and he wants it to be on a contender. The Royals aren't contenders. Yet. My best guess is that the Royals inquired (they were meeting with Oswalt’s agent early in the free agent signing period) and may have been told that he wasn’t interested in coming to Kansas City. If there was a chance to get him and it took $10 million to do it, of course I’d be for it – and if it ends up being something that gets us “only a couple more wins”, well what if we’re at 85-77 at the end of the year and those couple wins could have had the Royals at 87, 88, 89 wins? That’s money well spent.

As it is…doubt the Royals had a chance. Roy might realize that with his back issues this is his last chance at a real rotation spot and he wants it to be on a contender. The Royals aren’t contenders. Yet.

]]> By: jim fetterolf http://kingsofkauffman.com/2012/02/06/why-not-roy-oswalt/#comment-2020109 jim fetterolf Mon, 06 Feb 2012 22:47:48 +0000 http://kingsofkauffman.com/?p=12020#comment-2020109 Oswalt has been a #1 starter once in the last three years, hasn't been an ace since '06, and has a bad back. That's not worth $10 million for a couple of wins and sending Duffy to Omaha. That money will be better used to sign Greinke next year or extend our young stars. Oswalt has been a #1 starter once in the last three years, hasn’t been an ace since ’06, and has a bad back. That’s not worth $10 million for a couple of wins and sending Duffy to Omaha. That money will be better used to sign Greinke next year or extend our young stars.

]]> By: jim fetterolf http://kingsofkauffman.com/2012/02/06/why-not-roy-oswalt/#comment-6098 jim fetterolf Mon, 06 Feb 2012 21:47:48 +0000 http://kingsofkauffman.com/?p=12020#comment-6098 Oswalt has been a #1 starter once in the last three years, hasn't been an ace since '06, and has a bad back. That's not worth $10 million for a couple of wins and sending Duffy to Omaha. That money will be better used to sign Greinke next year or extend our young stars. Oswalt has been a #1 starter once in the last three years, hasn’t been an ace since ’06, and has a bad back. That’s not worth $10 million for a couple of wins and sending Duffy to Omaha. That money will be better used to sign Greinke next year or extend our young stars.

]]> By: mmeade17 http://kingsofkauffman.com/2012/02/06/why-not-roy-oswalt/#comment-2020108 mmeade17 Mon, 06 Feb 2012 20:09:20 +0000 http://kingsofkauffman.com/?p=12020#comment-2020108 I really hope Dayton Moore has at least inquired about Oswalt. I have to believe he has and was simply rejected. I don't think Oswalt wants to come to KC, despite how good it might be for him. I think he perceives the Royals as most of the rest of the country probably does, as a non-contender. He wants to go somewhere he has a chance to win. I hope Moore is still trying, calling his agent, sending gifts, whatever it takes, but I think ultimately Oswalt doesn't want to be in KC. It sucks because he would be great here if he's healthy. I really hope Dayton Moore has at least inquired about Oswalt. I have to believe he has and was simply rejected. I don’t think Oswalt wants to come to KC, despite how good it might be for him. I think he perceives the Royals as most of the rest of the country probably does, as a non-contender. He wants to go somewhere he has a chance to win. I hope Moore is still trying, calling his agent, sending gifts, whatever it takes, but I think ultimately Oswalt doesn’t want to be in KC.

It sucks because he would be great here if he’s healthy.

]]> By: mmeade17 http://kingsofkauffman.com/2012/02/06/why-not-roy-oswalt/#comment-6097 mmeade17 Mon, 06 Feb 2012 19:09:20 +0000 http://kingsofkauffman.com/?p=12020#comment-6097 I really hope Dayton Moore has at least inquired about Oswalt. I have to believe he has and was simply rejected. I don't think Oswalt wants to come to KC, despite how good it might be for him. I think he perceives the Royals as most of the rest of the country probably does, as a non-contender. He wants to go somewhere he has a chance to win. I hope Moore is still trying, calling his agent, sending gifts, whatever it takes, but I think ultimately Oswalt doesn't want to be in KC. It sucks because he would be great here if he's healthy. I really hope Dayton Moore has at least inquired about Oswalt. I have to believe he has and was simply rejected. I don’t think Oswalt wants to come to KC, despite how good it might be for him. I think he perceives the Royals as most of the rest of the country probably does, as a non-contender. He wants to go somewhere he has a chance to win. I hope Moore is still trying, calling his agent, sending gifts, whatever it takes, but I think ultimately Oswalt doesn’t want to be in KC.

It sucks because he would be great here if he’s healthy.

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