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		<title>By: eric.akers</title>
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		<description>&quot;The use of an ace reliever is one area where sabermetrics and old-school baseball minds seem to agree.&quot;

 

What stats show that the &quot;fireman&quot; would be better than the closer? I have only seen discussions about bringing in the best guy in the pen in high leverage situations, but I have not seen any real stats showing one is better than the other.

 

I think the main difference between the times of the fireman and the closer is that so many pitchers now throw 95-100 and are strikeout pitchers; so if you need one, you do not necessarily have to rely on a single guy.

 

The biggest problem with pitchers now is that they have a brain, and that brain only functions well in certain situations.  I can&#039;t tell you how many times I have read about pitchers in the pen saying they have all found their roles and how it helps them all. Personally, I only believe in one roll for a pitcher, &quot;Do not allow any runs&quot;, no matter the inning or situation. But my brain functions typically better than that of the average pitcher.

 

While I think having a smaller pen and a fireman to rely on would be great, I don&#039;t think it has a prayer of working for more than a few clubs. You need pitchers whose brains works well in any situation, you need a starting rotation that typically goes into the 7th inning, and you need a couple of guys who do not care about &quot;saves&quot; and other stats. Look at K-Rod, if he doesn&#039;t come in as the closer, all hell breaks loose. It will be interesting to see what happens with the Brew Crew.</description>
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<p>What stats show that the &#8220;fireman&#8221; would be better than the closer? I have only seen discussions about bringing in the best guy in the pen in high leverage situations, but I have not seen any real stats showing one is better than the other.</p>
<p>I think the main difference between the times of the fireman and the closer is that so many pitchers now throw 95-100 and are strikeout pitchers; so if you need one, you do not necessarily have to rely on a single guy.</p>
<p>The biggest problem with pitchers now is that they have a brain, and that brain only functions well in certain situations.  I can&#8217;t tell you how many times I have read about pitchers in the pen saying they have all found their roles and how it helps them all. Personally, I only believe in one roll for a pitcher, &#8220;Do not allow any runs&#8221;, no matter the inning or situation. But my brain functions typically better than that of the average pitcher.</p>
<p>While I think having a smaller pen and a fireman to rely on would be great, I don&#8217;t think it has a prayer of working for more than a few clubs. You need pitchers whose brains works well in any situation, you need a starting rotation that typically goes into the 7th inning, and you need a couple of guys who do not care about &#8220;saves&#8221; and other stats. Look at K-Rod, if he doesn&#8217;t come in as the closer, all hell breaks loose. It will be interesting to see what happens with the Brew Crew.</p>
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