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		<title>By: Podsednik as Trade Bait? &#124; Kings of Kauffman &#124; A Kansas City Royals Blog</title>
		<link>http://kingsofkauffman.com/2010/04/01/the-importance-of-being-aviles/#comment-2488</link>
		<dc:creator>Podsednik as Trade Bait? &#124; Kings of Kauffman &#124; A Kansas City Royals Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2010 19:25:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] then, what would I consider a fair return? As I discussed last month, the Royals as an organization are thin at shortstop and one of the minor league prospects I mentioned was Cincinnati&#8217;s Zack Cozart, ranked by [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Wally Fish</title>
		<link>http://kingsofkauffman.com/2010/04/01/the-importance-of-being-aviles/#comment-2208</link>
		<dc:creator>Wally Fish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Apr 2010 18:04:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heading into the 2009 draft there were a lot of scouts and organizations that didn&#039;t think Grant Green would be able to remain a SS for very long as a professional.  The A&#039;s are believers, or at least are going to let him play his way off the position.  It is too early to tell considering he only played in 5 games in 2009 after signing and I believe he only played DH in those.

Also when it comes to the draft I think organizations should always draft the best talent regardless of system depth or positional need.  Along those lines, picking between Aaron Crow and Grant Green, Crow was the right pick at the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heading into the 2009 draft there were a lot of scouts and organizations that didn&#8217;t think Grant Green would be able to remain a SS for very long as a professional.  The A&#8217;s are believers, or at least are going to let him play his way off the position.  It is too early to tell considering he only played in 5 games in 2009 after signing and I believe he only played DH in those.</p>
<p>Also when it comes to the draft I think organizations should always draft the best talent regardless of system depth or positional need.  Along those lines, picking between Aaron Crow and Grant Green, Crow was the right pick at the time.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Baseball Side of FanSided (4/3) &#124; Call to the Pen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Apr 2010 16:32:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Michael Engel</title>
		<link>http://kingsofkauffman.com/2010/04/01/the-importance-of-being-aviles/#comment-2173</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Engel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Apr 2010 19:11:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As far as Gordon, 2nd overall pick and Minor League player of the year, he can&#039;t help but come with hype.  And you&#039;re right, he hasn&#039;t come close to reaching the expectations Kansas City has hoped he&#039;d reach.  He&#039;s still part of &quot;the Process&quot;.  While he may not end up being George Brett v2.0, he&#039;s still young enough that if he can finally avoid injuries, he can produce at an above-average level.  Maybe even All-Star levels.  He&#039;ll never hit .300 and his defense has been pretty poor, and I get frustrated with how many times he strikes out looking, but the talent has been there and the Royals have to wait to see it pan out.  

But I have the same fears - it doesn&#039;t look good for Gordon right now.

As for Aviles, the reason I see him as more of a placeholder is he was never much more than organizational depth until he came out of nowhere in 2008.  He just turned 29 and only has one full season in the majors.  Thirty isn&#039;t far behind, and his skills aren&#039;t going to get any better from that point.  Defensively, he rated well in 2008, but it was unexpected based on his minor league numbers.  He&#039;s also coming back from major elbow surgery.

That being said, I&#039;m rooting for him.  I think he&#039;s an exciting player and very likable from a fan&#039;s perspective.  And if he shows he can stay healthy all year and hit at that .270/12/65 range and play average or better defense, by all means, I&#039;d like to see him here for a few more years.  But best case for the Royals to contend is, let&#039;s say, 2012 (and that&#039;s probably very optimistic I hate to think).  Aviles would probably be an important piece to that puzzle, but he&#039;ll be surrounded by a bunch of 24-26 year-olds still figuring out how to play at the Major League level and by the time it comes together, his skills may have deteriorated with age.  Similar to how Texas developed Elvis Andrus while they still had Michael Young, the Royals could use a skilled prospect who can come up and supplant the older starter.  Jeff Bianchi may be the early choice for that role, but his injury history has to make the Royals concerned that he can even get to the big leagues in the first place.  

So basically, yes, Aviles hitting at a league-average or better level, with any kind of decent defense should earn a long-term look, but I&#039;m just not sure that he&#039;ll be the best fit when the High-A/AA prospects start coming into town.  A strong rebound in 2010 would convince me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as Gordon, 2nd overall pick and Minor League player of the year, he can&#8217;t help but come with hype.  And you&#8217;re right, he hasn&#8217;t come close to reaching the expectations Kansas City has hoped he&#8217;d reach.  He&#8217;s still part of &#8220;the Process&#8221;.  While he may not end up being George Brett v2.0, he&#8217;s still young enough that if he can finally avoid injuries, he can produce at an above-average level.  Maybe even All-Star levels.  He&#8217;ll never hit .300 and his defense has been pretty poor, and I get frustrated with how many times he strikes out looking, but the talent has been there and the Royals have to wait to see it pan out.  </p>
<p>But I have the same fears &#8211; it doesn&#8217;t look good for Gordon right now.</p>
<p>As for Aviles, the reason I see him as more of a placeholder is he was never much more than organizational depth until he came out of nowhere in 2008.  He just turned 29 and only has one full season in the majors.  Thirty isn&#8217;t far behind, and his skills aren&#8217;t going to get any better from that point.  Defensively, he rated well in 2008, but it was unexpected based on his minor league numbers.  He&#8217;s also coming back from major elbow surgery.</p>
<p>That being said, I&#8217;m rooting for him.  I think he&#8217;s an exciting player and very likable from a fan&#8217;s perspective.  And if he shows he can stay healthy all year and hit at that .270/12/65 range and play average or better defense, by all means, I&#8217;d like to see him here for a few more years.  But best case for the Royals to contend is, let&#8217;s say, 2012 (and that&#8217;s probably very optimistic I hate to think).  Aviles would probably be an important piece to that puzzle, but he&#8217;ll be surrounded by a bunch of 24-26 year-olds still figuring out how to play at the Major League level and by the time it comes together, his skills may have deteriorated with age.  Similar to how Texas developed Elvis Andrus while they still had Michael Young, the Royals could use a skilled prospect who can come up and supplant the older starter.  Jeff Bianchi may be the early choice for that role, but his injury history has to make the Royals concerned that he can even get to the big leagues in the first place.  </p>
<p>So basically, yes, Aviles hitting at a league-average or better level, with any kind of decent defense should earn a long-term look, but I&#8217;m just not sure that he&#8217;ll be the best fit when the High-A/AA prospects start coming into town.  A strong rebound in 2010 would convince me.</p>
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		<title>By: thehulk</title>
		<link>http://kingsofkauffman.com/2010/04/01/the-importance-of-being-aviles/#comment-2169</link>
		<dc:creator>thehulk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Apr 2010 15:57:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You can’t understate the impact of Alex Gordon’s injury last season.&quot;

Man, I think Alex Gordon is all hype, and I REALLY hope I eat crow on this, but just look at his stats.
http://kansascity.royals.mlb.com/team/player.jsp?player_id=460086
The guy can&#039;t stay healthy, seems to make bone-headed errors (this is just my opinion, not sure there&#039;s a sabermetric for &quot;boneheaded&quot; yet), and being the pitcher on Jon&#039;s slow pitch team he mentioned in his bio, i&#039;m pretty sure that if I sent him one that ended up low and away he&#039;d still swing and miss.  slow pitch softball.  yea, I said it.

I&#039;m new to the site and have barged right in with a few comments before reading through the history, so maybe there are some good arguments already on here that can convince me that Gordon has been more than just a bundle of hype living off of flashes of production in the midst of lots of mediocre play.  But at this point I think he&#039;s a huge disappointment and I don&#039;t have much confidence he&#039;s going to prove me wrong.  Again, would love to eat crow on this, but I&#039;d bet money he&#039;s hurt again this season and continues to swing and wiff at every breaking ball away, and every too-high fast ball, that comes his way.

It would be AWESOME to see our lineup shake out with him as a solid contributor, I just don&#039;t see anything yet to make me feel that&#039;s likely to happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You can’t understate the impact of Alex Gordon’s injury last season.&#8221;</p>
<p>Man, I think Alex Gordon is all hype, and I REALLY hope I eat crow on this, but just look at his stats.<br />
<a href="http://kansascity.royals.mlb.com/team/player.jsp?player_id=460086" rel="nofollow">http://kansascity.royals.mlb.com/team/player.jsp?player_id=460086</a><br />
The guy can&#8217;t stay healthy, seems to make bone-headed errors (this is just my opinion, not sure there&#8217;s a sabermetric for &#8220;boneheaded&#8221; yet), and being the pitcher on Jon&#8217;s slow pitch team he mentioned in his bio, i&#8217;m pretty sure that if I sent him one that ended up low and away he&#8217;d still swing and miss.  slow pitch softball.  yea, I said it.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m new to the site and have barged right in with a few comments before reading through the history, so maybe there are some good arguments already on here that can convince me that Gordon has been more than just a bundle of hype living off of flashes of production in the midst of lots of mediocre play.  But at this point I think he&#8217;s a huge disappointment and I don&#8217;t have much confidence he&#8217;s going to prove me wrong.  Again, would love to eat crow on this, but I&#8217;d bet money he&#8217;s hurt again this season and continues to swing and wiff at every breaking ball away, and every too-high fast ball, that comes his way.</p>
<p>It would be AWESOME to see our lineup shake out with him as a solid contributor, I just don&#8217;t see anything yet to make me feel that&#8217;s likely to happen.</p>
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		<title>By: thehulk</title>
		<link>http://kingsofkauffman.com/2010/04/01/the-importance-of-being-aviles/#comment-2168</link>
		<dc:creator>thehulk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Apr 2010 15:47:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s something I don&#039;t get.  If Aviles can hit at 80% of his rookie year, that makes him a pretty decent offensive contributor (darn good by Royals standards).  Looking just at offense, we shouldn&#039;t need to move him for any reason, until someone with a much better offense comes up.  So i&#039;m not sure why we would consider him a &quot;placeholder&quot; at all, as opposed to the long-term solution.  Again, this is just based on offense.
DEFENSIVELY, its another story.  If his defense isn&#039;t that great then we do need to consider him a stopgap for replacement as soon as possible.  The Royals have this big defensive push going on, so if he&#039;s a below-average defender then that&#039;s just not going to cut it.  But if he&#039;s average (for the league) with average offense (for the league, which puts him above average for the Royals), then why don&#039;t we just plop him down and let him play for as many years as possible?

Separate note, I have this feeling of dread that the Royals will gamble with putting him in too early and he re-injures his elbow.  That just sounds like something that would happen to this team.  I sure hope I&#039;m wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s something I don&#8217;t get.  If Aviles can hit at 80% of his rookie year, that makes him a pretty decent offensive contributor (darn good by Royals standards).  Looking just at offense, we shouldn&#8217;t need to move him for any reason, until someone with a much better offense comes up.  So i&#8217;m not sure why we would consider him a &#8220;placeholder&#8221; at all, as opposed to the long-term solution.  Again, this is just based on offense.<br />
DEFENSIVELY, its another story.  If his defense isn&#8217;t that great then we do need to consider him a stopgap for replacement as soon as possible.  The Royals have this big defensive push going on, so if he&#8217;s a below-average defender then that&#8217;s just not going to cut it.  But if he&#8217;s average (for the league) with average offense (for the league, which puts him above average for the Royals), then why don&#8217;t we just plop him down and let him play for as many years as possible?</p>
<p>Separate note, I have this feeling of dread that the Royals will gamble with putting him in too early and he re-injures his elbow.  That just sounds like something that would happen to this team.  I sure hope I&#8217;m wrong.</p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Apr 2010 08:16:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by Mike Engel and Wally Fish, royalsfeed. royalsfeed said: The Importance of Being Aviles: Last season was a disaster for Kansas City. Picked by some to be “the next Tampa ... http://bit.ly/cMdojk [...]</description>
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